Chet Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I always make extra pieces but the only time I need them is when I fail to make extra pieces. 1 2 Quote "Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for." - Epicurus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Chet said: I always make extra pieces but the only time I need them is when I fail to make extra pieces. I didn't make any extra rail material but, if I needed to, it wouldn't take me but a few minutes to mill one of those. The legs are a little different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Decided to go take care of the templates tonight as well.. I had the blanks as part of the lumber selection video so was only a few minutes to cut the curves in them. I probably won't use them for flush trimming but, I will use them for the layout lines.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 For clarification or maybe discussion, what is the horizontal strip of wood directly below the bottom drawer called? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Chet said: I always make extra pieces but the only time I need them is when I fail to make extra pieces. Amen! Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Coop said: For clarification or maybe discussion, what is the horizontal strip of wood directly below the bottom drawer called? I'm certainly open if anyone has a better term but, I would call it a dust frame. A dust frame is different than a web frame as it's a solid panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I’ll buy that. I didn’t know if it was just a single piece of wood, ie. stretcher or if it was in fact part of a solid panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Coop said: I’ll buy that. I didn’t know if it was just a single piece of wood, ie. stretcher or if it was in fact part of a solid panel. In the case of these nightstands, they will be a solid panel. BB ply edged with African Mahogany.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Will the legs be notched out to accept them or some other type of joinery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Coop said: Will the legs be notched out to accept them or some other type of joinery? Yes.. Pretty much the same way I did the big dresser, I'll notch it into the legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Kev said: I'm certainly open if anyone has a better term but, I would call it a dust frame. A dust frame is different than a web frame as it's a solid panel. My ninth grade shop teacher was real adamant about stuff like this so maybe this is why I remember it. What Kev is doing is called a dust panel because it is a solid panel. A dust frame is like a web frame with a thin panel in it, like a frame and panel door is constructed. Of course this was back in the sixties so things could have changes by now. 1 Quote "Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for." - Epicurus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Chet said: My ninth grade shop teacher was real adamant about stuff like this so maybe this is why I remember it. What Kev is doing is called a dust panel because it is a solid panel. A dust frame is like a web frame with a thin panel in it, like a frame and panel door is constructed. Of course this was back in the sixties so things could have changes by now. I can understand the difference but, why would anyone make a "panel" with a thinner center section vs just making one solid piece? They perform exactly the same function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Kev said: I can understand the difference but, why would anyone make a "panel" with a thinner center section vs just making one solid piece? They perform exactly the same function. It would change the weight, especially the bigger the piece gets. Quote "Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for." - Epicurus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chet said: It would change the weight, especially the bigger the piece gets. I don't disagree with that statement either. However, in a piece like my big chest of drawers (I left them open) I just don't see it making enough of a weight difference to add all the extra work to make the frame and panels. This is beginning to sound more like a "tradition" thing.. It's certainly not wrong to do them in a frame/panel configuration, it just seems like a lot of extra work for nothing. It's not seen and performs no additional function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kev said: it just seems like a lot of extra work for nothing. Yea I am sure there is some tradition but tradition can be a good thing. I have a Queen Anne slant front desk sitting behind me that is 150 years old and it has panels not frames. As far as a lot of extra work, I guess, but I enjoy the journey with things like this and making dovetail drawer slides so I don't think of it as a lot of extra work. But bottom line is this, I am pretty sure that my shop teacher has passed but where ever he may be, if he heard me call what you are doing anything else then a dust panel he would still give me an F 2 Quote "Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for." - Epicurus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Since I had to have my wife to the airport by 5am, I got a pretty early start in the shop today! I'm sure I'll run out of gas a little earlier as well but, that's ok.. So far this morning, I've final milled all the rail stock, cut the grooves and curves, and then sanded those curves.. Off to final mill the legs and start figuring out where the dominos live! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Kev said: I can understand the difference but, why would anyone make a "panel" with a thinner center section vs just making one solid piece? They perform exactly the same function. Now I’m confused, which happens often. 😀 By solid piece, would this be a frame with the piece being ply of the same thickness or a piece made of solid wood pieces, laminated together to form one big piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Coop said: Now I’m confused, which happens often. 😀 By solid piece, would this be a frame with the piece being ply of the same thickness or a piece made of solid wood pieces, laminated together to form one big piece? lol.. No.. What @Chet is saying is a frame with a thinner panel in the middle - Typical frame and panel. What I'm saying is why not just use a solid piece to cut down one the work. Neither way is wrong, one is just more labor intensive but, lightens the weight a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Update.. Got the legs all milled and all the domino locations marked on both nightstands! This is really where having multiple squares set up that can be left that way for a bit really pays off! Time to cut 64 dominos...lol. I should be able to get these into a first dry fit today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye (Bryan) Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 64 mortises cut and dry fit in a day. Reason why the domino might be the biggest woodworking invention/game changer in the last 25 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Just now, Woodenskye (Bryan) said: 64 mortises cut and dry fit in a day. Reason why the domino might be the biggest woodworking invention/game changer in the last 25 years. Agreed! Dry fit complete! I'm going to glue up the tops and the decorative strip on the ply dust panel and call it a day! I did get all the feet marked for their angled cuts as well as marked all the groove locations. Oh, I marked the location for the dust panel as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Darn nice progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Coop said: Darn nice progress! Thanks! I'm done for today! Early morning getting my wife to the airport has me a bit pooped for today.. I'll get after it again tomorrow.. Tops and dust panels glued up.. Leg notches and tapered feet, cut the panels, and hopefully glue up tomorrow.. That's a pretty ambitious list so, I'll just see how I do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Question for the group... I just finished up the rough edit on todays footage and I'm sitting at close to 15 minutes which is normally where I max out on my video length. My question to the group is do I extent this video to the 1/2 hour length of the first 2 videos in this series to do I split them into 2 fifteen minute videos? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I think 15 min. each. The second one gives me something to look forward too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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