Woodenskye (Bryan)

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Bushwacked Original Post: Got this the other day .. www.grizzly.com/event/clamps I picked up a few 36" bar clamps just to help me quickly grab things without having to bust out the parallel clamps. Follow Up Posts: 1) Sweet! I've actually been thinking of adding some of those gear clamps to my collection.. I have the quick grips but, the gear clamps just look like they'd be easy to operate since many times I'm trying to operate those one handed. 2) I sure need me some 12” clamps and how unfortunate that these go from 6” to 24” but for the price, 24” it is. Thanks BW for the link.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Puka Original Post: When I was a kid back in the day [when I actually owned a pair or two of jeans] when my jeans started to develop holes in them I usually threw them out or they ended up in the rag bin [usually the rag bin]. Come forward in time to about now and its seems like someone is going through the rag bins and selling these jeans off to people for the likes of $30 a pair. People are then calling this fashion and are wearing this worn out crap around town with pride. Like WTF is with that?!?! Is it just me. . . ? Why would u want your knees hanging out of your trousers or half your arse or your dick hanging out through the worn out crotch. Its almost like those dick heads who walk around with their pants hanging half way down because they think it looks cool. Doesn't look cool to me, looks damn stupid in my opinion. We're doomed. . . Follow Up Posts: 1) I like the way you think and totally agree and $30 is probably on the way low side. Mom use to patch my jeans when I was a kid but I don’t know which was the most embarrassing!

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: Local radio has been advertising this great Dewalt sale from a local store. They obviously spent a lot on the advertising because I was getting bombarded constantly. So, Friday, I decided to go see this great sale. I have one of my drills with a clutch that's starting to go so, thinking this would be the best sale ever, I'd go ahead and just replace the drill. The store was absolutely packed and people are running around with carts full of Dewalt tools.. Looks promising! After fighting through the crowd and finding the drill I was looking for, I was less than impressed when I saw the price tag. It was an OK price but, not what I was expecting from all the advertising and crowds. On a whim, I pulled out my phone and searched the drill on Amazon just to see how good the deal was.. Amazon was $10.00 cheaper than this killer sale! Moral.. Don't get sucked in by heavy advertising and sheeple that run to the sale! Do your homework! Additional Note: I still prefer to buy local but, I won't be hood winked into it! Follow Up Posts: 1) Yep, completely agree Kev! When I see a "sale" price I always validate it elsewhere just to make sure. 2) True, true, true. And this can also be the case with Amazon Prime you need to know your prices because some times free Prime shipping isn't really free as the price of the product is higher then normal pricing. Not always but enough to make me pay attention. 3) Had this been a locally owned Ace hardware or some family owned company, I would have bought it on the spot. Amazon or HD, let them fight it out, which ever is the cheapest for the same product. Having seconds to reconsider, I think Bezos has enough money. HD spends millions to let you actually put your hands and eyes on a tool. I would have still bought from HD. 4) This was a very local place.. My issue has to do more with pumping up the masses for a great sale that wasn't so great. Cheating people is cheating people regardless of the cheat! 5) Depending on what you're looking for, this can be difficult sometimes but, I do agree! 6) I’m as guilty as the next guy about buying from Amazon but I think I may change courses. I thought at first that Walmart was a neat deal until I saw more and more of the mom and pop places closing due to WM. Then sometimes, WM closes down in the smaller communities, leaving the consumer, no where locally to go. Along comes Amazon with their 2 day delivery and I thought that to be the cat’s meow and their pricing usually lower than the next guy. Having owned my own business for many years, started by my dad in 1945, I’m fortunate to be in the service industry primarily. If it was strictly sales, I would be in deep dodo. I’ve read a couple of articles on the net about Amazon’s abuse to it’s providers and it seems to be unfair to them in many cases. You sell thru Amazon at their rules or they find someone else. I’m thinking how often do I need 2nd day delivery, how often did I purchase the item due to 2 nd day delivery. Heck, it was just so convenient! Having said all of this, if a stone and mortar store offers me a price that is only $10 more on a $300 item, I’m buying from them. Rant over. 7) I'm nearly always willing to pay a few bucks more to support the local brick and mortar! However, when the local brick and mortar spends exorbitant amounts to try to deceive me, they will lose my business! 8 How much of this brick and mortar deceit was instigated or prompted by the manufacture to promote sales away from Amazon? I would beat that they are at the mercy of the supplier? I bet someday we see a book out regarding the real operations behind Amazon. JMO. 9) Very fair question and I don't have an honest answer as I just don't know. What I do know is that other than the big box stores, there's not many tool dealers in my town. As for Dewalt products, they have far more than either of the big box stores. Personally, I would think that Dewalt would be pushing the sales at the big box stores as they see far more traffic than this store. 10)

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Keggers Original Post: We had a pretty bad storm yesterday afternoon. The fierce wind blew down one of my large white oak trees. No damage to the house that I've found. I've already made arrangements to have it hauled to the mill. I plan to have it all quarter sawn. See? Silver lining! Follow Up Posts: 1) Sounds like you should have plenty of oak around for a while! 2) how much is it going to cost to get it hauled over and milled up? .... If you dont mind me asking of course. Just curious since I have never seen or done that before. Although sounds like a great thing to up your stash of lumber. 3) Will you be air drying it. Snap some pics if you get a chance. 4) It won't cost me anything since my sawmill partner will be doing all the sawing and hauling. 5) I'll probably sticker it and let it air dry for a short while before having it put in the kiln. 6) Now that is a sweet deal!!

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: Just an FYI.. My website is currently going through a makeover so, might be a couple days if you wanted some plans. They'll all be available free again once the new site is up and running. Follow Up Posts: 1) Cool! new update to the site ... Did you get board and want to redo things or are you getting enough visits to warrant a facelift? 2) A little of both.. It was getting time to pay for the next year and I wasn't too happy with the site so, time to make decisions and do it. My son is actually setting everything up for me, I just have to pay and approve things...lol 3) That schooling is finally paying off, huh? 4) Maybe.. He managed to knock the old site down, put up a new page that reads "under construction" and then had to go to work. So, he has the "demo" part down good but, not too impressed with the "rebuild" portion yet 5) If he picks that kind of stuff up as fast as he did Woodworking, I bet he gets it right! 6) Looks like he's coming home for the summer so, I might get some shop help for a while! 7) Is he able to leave his workbench there? 8 His bench is currently in my shop

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Coop Original Post: The earliest post/thread I could find on here was by Kev under Board Rules and that was July 4 th of last year so I’m using that date as my basis. Congrats Kev on a great site. I know it hasn’t been easy, wearing multiple hats at different locations and working at a real job at the same time. I’m sure I speak for the non-members as well and invite them to join our growing group. Thanks Kev for all you have contributed and the work you have done!Follow U Follow Up Posts: 1) Great post Coop, agree 100%, and couldn't say it better myself. 2) I just leave it at that. 3) Appreciate it guys! Reality is that you guys are the reason I started it. WTO was looking bleak at the time and I wanted the great people to have someplace to go if that went south. I truly enjoy this particular group of people and what they bring to the table! 4) Congrats, Kev and thank you! I used to sign in to WTO several times a day, now it's this sight. I like the people here as well as the content. Happy Anniversary! 5) Congrats 6) Dang time flies!! Keep up the awesome work Kev!

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: Just incase you missed it... 50% off a couple of their hinges.. www.brusso.com/news_blog/brusso-hardware-sale-50-off-on-jb102-stop-hinges-cb302-butt-hinges/ Follow Up Posts: 1) Those are really nice hinges. I have used those four different times on jewelry boxes. 2) Yea, I ordered a couple sets just to have.. No specific plans..

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: Finally finished with the gravel for the driveway to the new shop.. Ok, maybe a little more as well because I hate mowing! 80 yards in total.. (See Photo Below) Follow Up Posts: 1) that view .... amazing every time I see it! How well does that hold up with all the snow and melting? will it get washed away creating massive potholes? 2) No.. Was hard packed enough to drive on it before I put the gravel on it year round.. 3) I just replaced two 4’ x 55’ sidewalks and a 20’ x 45’ concrete drive but would much rather have yours! Sweet! 4) That may eventually be pavement.. Depends on how long I want to work..

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Chet Original Post: I received for my Birthday, from my to younger grandkids a gift certificate to my lumber yard. They told their mom they wanted to give "Paga" some wood to build something with. My daughter told them that I should pick the wood out myself but that they could get me a gift certificate from the lumber yard. When they went in they were told that they didn't have gift cards but the guy at the counter went over and cut them a piece of pine and told them to give that to me and tell me what it was for. (See photo below) Follow Up Posts: 1) Bet that tugged at the old heart strings 2) That is a cool gift! My lumber store is more commercial so they have company accounts. My wife just gives them money so my account has a credit when I go. So it's a pretty cool deal they have going. 3) Yep, pure awesome right there! 4) Reminds me of the time some years ago when one of our Surveyors showed up on a building site and the builder didn't have any paper, so he grabbed a bit of waste 4 x 2 and wrote up the measurements we needed on that. That bit of WOOD sat on that Surveyors desk for years before it was tossed. Now back to your write up.... PAGA is that a typo or is that your real life made up name like Spiderman is Peter Parkers make up name. ? ? 5) That is what my 4 grand kids call me. I am Paga and my wife Kathy is Maga. 6) Puka is obviously not a grandfather yet! 7) So those ARE your Superhero names And no I am not a gran pappy yet or will ever be. Because you see I recently I found out that I have this really cool Syndrome called Kleinfelters. Which is probably to blame for a good many things in my life which have made my shed a wee bit different from you normal blokes sheds in some manner shape or form. For example, my shed has 47 chromosomes with an XXY configuration (one of the X's is a copy of the other, kind of like having two identical planner / thicknesses), a normal shed on the other hand has 46 Cs with an XY or XX layout (its all about how where your machinery is placed). Due to a lack of a certain chemical in my chemical cupboard I have a general disinterest in a number of things someone with a fully stocked cupboard would have. So there you go...I'm certified. And that block of would wood look swell nailed to the wall as a bit of memorabilia. 8 I’m pretty sure I understand all between the first sentence and the last. If you’re content, then so am I.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: We lost our yellow lab (Abby) today. Pretty rough day for sure! I'll be doing the urns when I get home but, pretty sure I won't be narrating that vide, just music and some wood working! Follow Up Posts: 1) Sorry for your loss. Losing a pet sucks. 2) Damn! Sorry to hear that Kev!! Been through it several times and it never gets any easier. 3) Man, I am really sorry to hear that Kev. I wish there was something I could say other then I know it hurts and a lot of us have been down that road. I don't think any of us here would be bothered if you decided not to do a video. Some times a project needs to be you the wood and your thoughts and memories of your dog. 4) Thanks Chet! The rest of you as well. 5) Labs are a man’s best, best friend. Sorry for your loss bud. 6) Nothing is worse than when you can tell a dog is struggling and just wants you to help them. After doing all we could, this afternoon we had to put our 15 year old beagle Tasha to sleep. As tough as it was, easing her pain was more important. I think it will hit our lab in a few days that his last 4 legged companion is gone. 7) Condolences for the loss! It's amazing how attached we become with our pets and don't really fully realize how much joy they brought to our lives when they were with us. Our recent loss really brought that home for me and all I wanted to do before coming out on the current job was spend time with our other older dog as I know her time is coming as well. 8 Thanks. Couldn't agree more. Our lab is 12 and I hope he has a few more good years left.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: Anyone know what's up with Pop Woodworking? They haven't posted a video in over a month, just curious. Follow Up Posts: 1) Chris Schwarz had a post in his blog at Lost Art Press a couple of months back talking about the changes when they were recently sold. The new owners had laid of a lot of good people and hired some new young people that didn't really have a woodworking back ground, crammed the operation in to the corner of one building and sold off a lot of the other properties. He was pretty much predicting their demise because of the near impossiblities to survive under those conditions. I was going to post it here but I couldn't find it on his blog. I wonder if the new owners got wind of it and took legal action to have him take it down. It was very well written, not mean spirited but it wasn't a plus article for the new owners. 2) Saw this in my feed today.. Might explain a little.. blog.lostartpress.com/2019/06/19/popular-woodworking-acquired-by-woodsmiths-parent-company/amp/?fbclid=IwAR1d57FT1-irNLZfaQaZIDnk8jM0MzVEOsXXZOHQYjDyUIf6asL2SQItpoE 3) It will be interesting to see where this goes. One mil doesn't seem like a lot to pay for something like this so maybe the new owners are thinking if we fan the coals a little and get a fire great, if all we get is smoke and ash thats okay because we hardly paid anything for the it anyway. 4) Interesting video on this subject 5) This was in the comments below the video. - "Popular Woodworking did not go bankrupt, our parent company, F&W did, we exceeded our revenue budget every issue. It seems odd that most comments are critiquing Popular Woodworking on its own, it was a heathy business unit with a failing parent company." Thew gentleman in the video made a comment toward the end that we have all heard before and I am sure you Kev, have heard it more then the rest of us because you post content. "I could make that if I had a shop like yours" This got me to thinking, I, on occasion watch the Woodsmith program on PBS and something I noticed about their program, even thought they have all the tools and equipment they need it isn't on display. No big wall of clamps, no jointer or planer, you don't see a bunch of routers. I think all they have setting out is a table saw, Band Saw and Drill Press. It occurred to me while watching one episode that this can be a good way to go about things. Yes, a lot of their projects are simple or beginner in nature but they are probably keeping newbs watching because they are not over whelming them with these perfect shop setups. They only have out what they are using at the time. Just an observation and now back to the regularly scheduled discussion. 6) I watch some of their stuff from time to time. I think what they have is a "video set" because all the footage is pretty much from the same spot. We'd probably all chuckle if we saw the rest of the shop. 7) I'm not buying that PW was that strong on its own. If it was, it would have been sold privately and not part of an auction. 8 Yea, who knows? His info isn't exactly insider good info.. 9) I didn’t renew my subscription on the last magazine this month. I probably ending my fw online mag soon to. I have learned so much more thru online forums and YouTube. So what I’m doing is just sending my mag subscription money to them to keep the info coming out 10) Really cool! I haven't created a Patreon account and not sure that I'm going to but, I'm super excited by your personal choice! 11) Yea one of the other forums I follow moved to a subscription base format and for $6 a year. I’ve learned more on there than in 3 years worth of magazines. Same with patron I have like 4 YouTube guys I sent up to send a couple dollars to a month. I haven’t added it up but I’m spending about the same as I was sending to the magazines 12) I see that they put out a video today.. Anyone heard an update? Wow, they put up another last night as well.. Interesting! 13) They seem to be back to posting on Instagram.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Puka Original Post: If you haven't used their GEAR you SHOULD! I brought this LS Positioner for my Sliding Panel Saw earlier in the year (MAY), it landed at my house about 3 months later (Don't ask why it took so long. Another story). But anyway I finally needed to use it the other day so I mounted it to the side of the sliding panel on my sliding panel saw and this is what it looks like. See Photos Below The fence isn't INCRA but none other than magswitch as are the feather boards and associated Rocklers fasteners which aren't really that compatible with Mag-switch [BUT when you do the bolt up tight enough everything is compatible]. So far there is absolutely no lateral movement in the fence. It is rock solid which I can't say about the fence which came with the panel saw. One reason I'm not using it, the main reason its seriously way to big for the small amount of room I have to operate this saw in. This saw is designed for cutting up standard size panels (4 feets by 8 feets) or 1.2m by 2.4m. No room for any of the other crap that came with the saw either I only had the room I had for that tray you can see on the left side of the slide panel which was needed so I could attach the stabilizer arm (which u can just see below it). Any who. . . blame it on TIODS he was the one who introduced me to INCRA. Their stuff is pretty cool. I'd definitely buy more of their gear if i had the room to use it. Follow Up Posts: 1) This is a door I just finished making for my Bush Hut. . . still working on the window surrounds. It just stopped raining and since its lunch time. I'm going to do a runna and see if I can get to Super Cheap to buy some more wood clamps. I ran out last night gluing up said window frames. Ran out of the small clamps. While I'm their I'm gonna order a pizza from the Dominos pizza shop next door. Then when I have finished shopping for wood toys I'm gonna go get my lunch and eat it. (see photo below) 2) The Incra LS positioner is a great unit, there's a few here that use it.. Looks like a sturdy door for sure! 3) Well the Pizza wasn't all that tasty to be honest. I did however buy some more clamps. Not as many as I was hoping though. They were almost all out. Usually when I'm in there to buy other stuff they have oodles of them, but when i want to buy clamps they have hardly none. So I'm guess Murphy probably buys them just to pizz me off.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Coop Original Post: Another discussion got me to thinking, what makes a project a great project, the woodworker or the wood? Would you guys be willing to stick your neck out and give each a percentage? Follow Up Posts: 1) I will.. 90% woodworker 10%wood The woodworker makes the best use of the wood available. 2) I would probably say 95% woodworker 5% wood. 3) "The woodworker makes the best use of the wood available." This is my thinking, but I would have the woodworker at 100%. The wood has nothing to do with the project until the woodworker goes to the lumber yard and picks it out. I stick myself out there as an example. About a year ago I built a Art and Craft sideboard for our dining area. I let myself get caught up in a flurry of online and forum projects being done in Cherry so I followed suit. I have some regrets about wood choice, i wish I had stuck with my original thinking of quarter sawn white oak and fuming as part of the finish process. I give myself an A- on workmanship and a C on wood selection and maybe it should be a D. I have seen to many instances where the woodworker trys to make the wood do everything. Too much crotch, too much of a contrast between species, Too many species, and on and on. Even if you have no choice in the wood, someone just points you at a type of wood and say build such and such using that. It is still part of the process to select your parts out of the wood, grain selection, avoiding flaws and damage, to make the piece look as good as possible. No matter what you do none of it is the woods responsibility, woodworker 100% 4) Chet, I agree and that’s the reason I said “makes a project a great project” . I’ve seen very well built projects that just incorporated the wrong woods (grain, figure, etc) that made me think “holy crap”, what was he thinking. And I confess to having done just that. Kind of like a pink Range Rover. And after having said that, I think I just painted myself into a corner as choosing the right wood falls back on the shoulders of the woodworker. Going in with the question, my opinion was ww- 80%, wood - 20%. But now I’m leaning more in y’alls direction. 5) NOPE YOUR ALL WRONG. . . 50 / 50 50% to me and 50% to the wood. Its like the chicken or the egg. Can't have one without the other. So one of you said it ain't the wood at all....ok so imagine this. Hey guys I did this awesome project the other day. . .spent hours in the shed, did a lot of this and a lot of that and when i was finished it was freakin awesome. Didn't make a thing though because I had no wood. I was just imagining what I could have done if I'd had wood. The wood gave me the cold shoulder because I wasn't appreciating it enough. On the other hand there's nice wood to work with and then there's bastard wood to work with. PS and all that. . .Its good to see that I have managed to rub off on you all. "IT'S NOT TIMBRE ITS WOOD." Because we all know that TIMBRE is what you all scream when the tree finally falls over.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Woodenskye Original Post: Would you invest the money in buying a specific router bit for a potential commission, in order for the person to decide if that is the joint they want to go with? The price of the bit, specifically a lock miter, isn't a huge cost, but if isn't used again is sort of a waste of $50-100. Follow Up Posts: 1) If the commission was a sure thing, I would. I would also bump my markup a little to help cover the cost. I certainly wouldn't buy the bit until the ink was dry on the contract. 2) Thanks. I am extremely confident I will get, just don't want to throw money away on a potentially 1 time use item. I have already factored tool maintenance (sharpening/replacement) and shop supplies in my price, but not acquisition costs, cause I have everything I need except this particular bit, and it really is the 1 I don't have in my collection. 3) There is a possibility that you could use it on another project so, you can't charge them for the tool IMO. However, adding a little to the final bill to help cover that cost is certainly fair play. There's also a potential that you use it on this project and decide you like it. If not, you could also offer it up for sale and move it on to someone else. 4) I wouldn't charge them for the tool. This whole topic is more convincing myself that even if I use once, it is what is needed. I'm just trying to be a bit smarter. 5) Totally understand.. I have the matched radius set for the Maloof rocker that's only been used once.. I may use it again one day. I also have the tenon cutters from that very same project, only used once. There was also a specialty drill bit for that project that I refused to use even once and, yet I still have it. So, yea, I get it.. 6) Ok, wait a minute. I just bought that bit as well as the router bits for the same project. Why didn’t you use it? 7) I assume you're referring to the stepped drill bit? It sucks! It leaves the hole too big for standard plug cutters. That drill bit is designed for some weird stepped dowel insert thingy and it's bigger than standard plugs.. I was fortunate that I used it first on a test piece and checked everything out. I ended up using a long pilot drill and then just coming back with a normal bit of proper size to cut the recess for the plugs. The router bits are great! They're just not something that I use every day. Especially considering they're a matched set.. I'd hate to wear out the round over bit and not have them useful together in the future. 8 Glad you mentioned this before I used it. I did make the first initial drill thru the legs but have not gotten to the countersink portion. That’s another $16 I could have used at Starbucks, not! Yeah, the router bits are another one time tool.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Jamie Original Post: Ok I need to rant. I see way to many videos out there that claim diy and simple to build. Problem is in most of the videos there is no consideration for expansion. Am disgusted by the advice you could call it that floods the video world. Just watched a guy build a table from dimensional lumber that he glued and screwed to a sheet of plywood on the bottom. Then edge branded the whole top with glue on the end grain and held it all together with 8 in screws. I’d love to see that table in a few months to see if it completely exploded or if it has made its way to the backyard campfire. Sorry has to get it off my mind. My wife is sick of hearing about it. Just glad guys like Kev put the high quality videos out that you can actually learn from. Follow Up Posts: 1) Yep, certainly plenty of that garbage out there.. Unfortunately, it's the age we live in where everyone thinks they're going to get rich putting out crappy YT videos. There's no "minimum standard" for creating "instructional" videos. Anyone with a phone can make them. I've unsubscribed from many channels either because they make these kinds of videos or have no consistency to their releases. The other ones that bug me are the ones who market themselves well and are overloaded with paid advertisements, these really get on my nerves! I appreciate the kind words but, I make plenty of mistakes. I try to call myself out when I do but, sometimes you guys see things I don't. Frankly, that's why I really struggled with the glove caddy video! I really didn't think that was up to my standards for content production. 2) I agree some video makers can really sell themselves to company’s to make a buck or get a free bed. What does a bed that comes rolled up have to do with woodworking? As woodworkers we all make mistakes but I think the best woodworkers know how to cover them up. In all my years of making dust I’ve never made the perfect project, I can always see flaws of my own that the average eye will never see. As far as video production goes I’m completely blind to it. Hell I just figured parts of Snapchat out last week. My 6 year old had to show me. She is pushing me to make a video but I wouldn’t know where to start.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: Wanted to start a conversation here in an open part of our forums on the subject. Most of you are aware of the issues I've had with ACME and I'll have a video out on that this next week. However, in an unrelated post on the Wood Whisperer's FB group today, a member posted about one product that duplicated a review from a similar product. Of course, I posted that I was pretty sick of manipulated reviews being used to entice people to purchase products. In my case, a review not being allowed for very vague reasons. Anyway, Marc chimed in and stated that he had actually been offered money to change his review. Ultimately, Marc did the honorable thing but, it brings up the question around how often is this stuff happening? Any of you guys had similar circumstances? Is there a site out there that doesn't allow bogus reviews on any given product? Do we need to start one? I'll continue my battle to try and get ACME to post my review of the PM2000B but, wanted to generate some conversation out here on the subject. Follow Up Posts: 1) I generally don't put much stock in reviews, partly because I think a lot of them are paid for. Whether that is paid by a manufacturer to people that are "professional reviewers" or through sponsorship. I will try to leave most of my personal opinions about specific people private. With that said, the example you gave that Marc was approached to change his review proves my point. I would guarantee Marc (maybe not in this specific case) and other prominent content creators have all changed there reviews at some point for money, retaining a sponsorship or getting a free be. I mean they wouldn't refund you the $3K for your lemon, but will give plenty of people full shops of PM equipment. Marc and the others aren't moving sales enough to justify the free machines, but by hitching their wagon to prominent content creators who give favorable reviews creates a degree of trust amongst the uninformed public. I don't know if there is any site that doesn't allow bogus reviews, as long as it isn't a robot. 2) Pretty much sums up my point! Paid ads, to me, is just about the same as a manipulated review. I give credit to Marc (more so in years past) offering honest reviews of various products. If you look at many of the woodworking content creators, they're doing ads on a regular basis for items that have nothing to do with wooodworking! I take those with a gain of salt and don't fault them for taking the business. However, I also feel pretty confident that those creators aren't doing reviews on the various sites for those items they've been paid to do ads for. My issue lies more in bogus reviews for products, or reviews being removed, by the product manufacturer or the middle guy selling those items. This deception can be far more harmful to the consumer as they're not informed. At least content creators are generally up front enough to tell you if it's a paid slot. I recently had my first sponsor and was up front in my video to say so. In my case, it was my local HW dealer who supplied the lumber for the project. This is on the bathroom vanity which should see videos released shortly. No actual money changed hands, only lumber. So, how do we fix the issue? Do we need a legitimate site to offer reviews? If so, how do we be sure those reviews are actually legitimate and not just a "product beef" site? Do we offer a place to post reviews when places won't allow a review or moderate a review? Do we just continue to call these places out when we see them? Where do we do this? Do we contact the businesses state attorney general and the BBB when this happens? - I've done this on my current issue. I'll update how this worked out. Do we petition government to regulate this stuff? - For the record, I'm not for this option! Is there anything we as consumers can do to correct this? 3) I have tried twice to post my response by quoting your post at each question, and each time what I wrote was lost, so here goes. 1) I don't mind if you are a content creator and take sponsorships. If I was a creator I would probably do the same. However at what point are you willing to compromise your integrity and what obligation are you to tell the whole story? For example a lot of people are taking sponsorships for simple safe security systems. If 6 months down the road your shop or house was robbed or the system just doesn't work, are you allowed to update your video to your viewers that the product is junk? Are these guys just saying oh well check cleared. This can be just as deceptive as a bogus review. 2) Agree that this can be harmful to the consumer. Being upfront that a video is sponsored is fine, but are we certain that they are being completely honest, they have a following and could be just as deceptive. 3) Congrats! The rest of this isn't directed at you specifically. So whether you took money or just the lumber, what are your obligations for entering into this deal.. For example, the lumber you got looks fantastic, once you start milling you realize it is absolute garbage, are you able to say as much? Is your obligation to the sponsor or to inform your viewers? I realize a guy from NJ isn't going to use your HW dealer in Montana, but what if the product or manufacturer was common to the masses. Would you not being able to tell people because of the agreement be deceptive? 4) I am not smart enough to probably ever be able to fix 100%. 5) how or where would this legitimate site be located? Now the way to ensure that reviews are legitimate, the only real way to ensure is for the reviewer to provide proof of purchase. 6) If there was a review place here that would be good, the real question is how do you direct the masses to these verified reviews. Other forums have review sections, but again how do you verify they are legitimate, and how do you direct people who aren't active. The way the world is now, social media might be the best way to provide or direct people to an honest review. 7) yes, as consumers we should continue calling these places out. Again social media may be best. ? yes we should contact the state AG, BBB or other consumer affairs agencies. They need to be aware this is going on, whether they do anything is another issue, but at least the consumer can put the ball in their court like you did. 9). I agree that petitioning the government isn't an option. They really should have enough more pressing issues they could actually try to solve. 10) just keep calling out the shady manufacturers or retailers out and keeping the pressure on them. 4) Usually when I read reviews I read the lowest reviews first to see what the problems are and if I can deal with them. If none of the reviews say anything negative I don't trust them. No product is perfect for everyone and everyone's situation in my mind. The difficulty in knowing if a review is legitimate is there is sometimes no way to know. If I did a review of a Powermatic saw, it would be taken as legitimate I am guessing, even though I don't own one and have never used one. People don't know, what they don't know usually. As an interesting aside, with all the security systems the youtubers pushed recently I looked into them and they can be easily defeated with a cheap part from amazon. It was posted by LockPickingLawyer, which I have been watching lately. Which is why I will look on youtube for reviews if the purchase is important or expensive. 5) A few things here... Sorry you were having issues with posting! 1. Fair observation and good question! I doubt very seriously that they'd be allowed to go back and edit the video. Essentially, I would think the product owner now owns the content of that video since they paid for that product. 2. You're absolutely correct. The ones that really annoy me are the woodworking videos being sponsored by something unrelated to woodworking and they'll do their ad in the middle of the woodworking to ensure you see it! 3. There's a fine line in this question that has to be walked! If the product is crap and the content creator is pushing it anyway then, that says a lot about their integrity right? The problem is will anyone ever know? That is the definition of "integrity" right? What you do when nobody is looking? In my case with the HW dealer, I picked out the lumber so, no issues. Towards the end of the project, I was a little bit short on lumber so, dug into my pile. I let them know and the boards were immediately replaced. I guess my point here is that if the product were absolute crap or I didn't believe in or use the product I wouldn't take the sponsor. I think by maintaining that way of dealing with sponsorships that when I do take one, viewers will be a little bit more confident that I do actually believe in the product. 5. Agree completely! There are lots of questions around how to make it legitimate! Will certainly need someone way smarter than I to work through the issues.. Kind of like "Angie's List" but for web sites.. 6. Social media is great for the initial review. However, the information is lost so quickly that it's hard to come back and search for that information. Thanks for the responses! 6) I read reviews very much the same way.. Looking for the negative stuff first. I also think people are more likely to leave a review if they have something negative to say. I think I'm guilty of that as well. Not leaving reviews because the item didn't create me any issues. Perhaps I should go back and leave reviews for the various tools in my shop that I do enjoy using.. On the Simplisafe stuff, it's just a paid ad. Personally, I prefer the way that Jay Bates handled the ad in that he dedicated an entire video to it and didn't hide that it was an ad. As for defeating it, well no system is perfect. Frankly, the cost point on the system is pretty low so, I'm sure it gives people some peace of mind. 7) The posting issue is probably on my end so no need to apologize for that. (CC = Content Creator) 1) I know in most situations the CC needs to submit for review prior to release, which basically means the sponsor is controlling the message, which is standard practice in any ad or marketing. The CC probably owns the rights to the video, but likely has restrictions after its release. So in the end is the CC giving an honest review/infomercial or compromising for the money. 3) Your sponsorship was probably a bad example but was the info I had in this case. You are 100% correct that this is where integrity comes in. Can you trust the CC has integrity. Now a lot of these guys say I won't recommend a product I don't believe in, but is this truthful. For you I would say yes, for others who rely on this as there sole income not as sure, which is why I am highly skeptical of all of these guys. We will never know if these guys are compromising their integrity or not. I have a hypothetical for you. You have retired and CC is your sole income. You do a video saying your looking for a new saw, PM comes to you and says you have to do an unboxing and project video and they give you the saw. You have all the same issues you had, but PM quietly replaces all the issues and says you can't mention it, would you send the saw back and forget the sponsorship, or would you publish an honest video that the saw is junk? This is where the issue of integrity and what the CC is willing to compromise on comes into play and why can their word really be trusted. 8 This is really easy for me to answer! I would simply refer to the reviews that I've already done and would not accept the saw. Maybe I'm just too old school but, I believe a person is only as good as their word but, to accept a free saw at the expense of my integrity is a price that's just too high. Now, let's say a different manufacturer wants to send me a saw and asks for a review and a project in exchange for the saw. Well, this would require a conversation about being honest with the review. In the end, I would do an honest review and if they didn't like the review then, they could have the saw back and I would most likely still post the review unless I was contractually barred from doing that. It would all have to be discussed up front before accepting the saw. I will still do this when I retire but, it is my intention to not count on any money generated by it. This way I can turn this stuff down and maintain my integrity. 9) On the subject of companies not being up front on things. I pre-ordered a Milwaukee m18 cordless router from ToolNut.com and have twice received emails stating the router was delayed by Milwaukee. I copied the email below. The interesting thing is I just picked one up at my local Home Depot and it is sitting in my garage as I type this. I even paid for expedited processing from ToolNut. Will be cancelling my order with them and won't be pre-ordering from them again. All other tool purchases I have made with them have been great, this was my first pre-order I made. I don't mind the delay so much as telling me things that aren't true on the reason for the delay. Email: Thank you for your recent purchase of the new Milwaukee M18 FUEL Compact Router. Milwaukee notified us recently that this new tool's introduction has been delayed. Based on the latest information, we expect to ship this new tool on or around December 1st. We always strive to provide our customers with the most accurate product availability from manufacturers, however note that this date is subject to change. This delay affects all Milwaukee retailers and The Tool Nut will receive the first inventory for this new tool. 10) I went through something similar with Rockler and therefor, rarely order from them anymore either. On multiple occasions, I placed an order that their site said was in stock only to get an email a few days later telling me that the items were on back order. On at least 2 occasions, I needed the items for client projects which either delayed my delivery of the project or caused me to buy locally at a much increased cost.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: I've fought for years putting a clock in the shop. When I'm there, I'm in my own little world and don't really care what time it is. However, normal "life" stuff is driving me to know what time it is more and more. I absolutely refuse to be interrupted by my phone when I'm out there so, it was time to put in a clock. I knew I didn't want battery power and it would also be nice to be able to see the date. So, I stumbled across these on Amazon and, so far, really like them! The power cord is Really long! If it's too long, the clock has a space in the back to wrap the extra cord up so that the extra isn't just hanging out. Setting the date and time is super simple and you really don't even need the instructions. And, to top it off, it actually comes with a template for the mounting screws so, I had the clock hung and set in less than 10 minutes. I still need to string the power cord a little better but, I was pretty impressed! (photo below) $44.00 As I said, I bought off of Amazon: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019PJV3N4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Follow Up Posts: 1) Oh nice ... I bought a battery powered type clock and it was dead in like 3-4 weeks out there in the heat. Might look into this one.. thanks for sharing 2) I usually throw my phone in my pocket, and if I need to do something at a specific time will set the alarm for 20 minutes before so I can clean up or finish a task. It is a nice clock, easy to read. 3) The clock in my shop (second photo) 4) Mines been dead for a year just so I can tell the wife I had no idea it was that late ?

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Puka Original Post: Quick question. How do you all cut plywood without it splintering along the edge? The blade on my cordless (De Walt) and none cordless (Bosch) are pretty sharp and they aren't finishing blades. They always rip chunks out of the edge opposite the blade. I don't have time to keep swapping the blades over and I'm not entirely convinced a finishing blade would fix the problem entirely due to using finishing blades on panel saw doing the same thing. I'm thinking that maybe if i scour the cut line with a sharp knife and then do the same 3mm offset it might stop this. Any thoughts from yoall? Follow Up Posts: 1) I bought the diablo 7 1/4 60 tooth blade and they are amazing for not splintering! They do take quite a bit of power to run tho. I have cut quite a bit of birch with mine and have less splintering than I get off my table saw with a 48 tooth. www.homedepot.com/p/Diablo-7-1-4-in-x-60-Tooth-Fine-Saw-Blade-D0760R/100627136 2) I use a track saw and that eliminated the problems with normal circular saw. You could put blue painters tape on the cut lines. Also a higher tooth blade has worked in the past. 3) Agree with woodenskye. .. High tooth count and painters tape. I also like my track saw! 4) That’s the method I use. But sometimes plywood just want cut without splintering. I think it all depends on the outer veneer thickness 5) And remember to put the finished side down when cutting. 6) Cool. . .But just so as you know I'm thinking that the nearest Home Depot to me is probably going to be in San Diego. Which is as the crow flies approximately 10,538m away or 5,690 nautical miles. If I were to drive that then it would be a lot more round about. Since I'd have to get a container ship to Australia, Papua new guinea, Indonesia, Malaysia etc...china, Siberia and across to Alaska and then down. So yeah nah not going to drive. Yes I did remember to put the good side down after I buggered the first one. Luckily that good side that got chipped will be sitting under a wall. But anyway I tried the link to the Home Depot anyway and I got an OPS WE'RE FIXING IT. Your search has found a page that's not responding. We'll have this patched up as soon as possible. Anyway Its 5pm and I have to get home to start sorting stuff for Pick Your Owns tomorrow.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Bushwacked Original Post: Just watched this one ... His end grain touch to the drawers I thought turned out extremely well. Not sure if gone with brass for the separation lines ... More of a Walnut possibly for me or maybe even a redwood or something. Overall really neat idea though I think. Follow Up Posts: 1) That altendorf saw is awesome! If I had the room and budget I would surely have a slider. That is an amazing project. Wish I could think of doing something remotely close to that level of design. I agree with you on the brass I think I wouldn’t have put any trim in there. 2) It is a little modern for my taste, but agree, a walnut or Ebony instead of the brass would be nicer in my opinion. Watching through here I can't find out who this guy is, do you know? Last thing, I really really want his slider. 3) His website shows him out of Australia... pedullastudio.com.au/ I followed him long ago when he built this.But then he basically went silent. He has like 5-6 videos in a couple years. Although several more recent so maybe he's back?

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Bushwacked Original Post: Hoping after a long break in being able to build anything I may be getting a chance in a week to start my office desk ... I really like this design but a couple questions ... When he's making the under cut with the router ... Is that just a rabbeting bit? @4:40 Not having a front brace on the desk... Does that hurt the strength of the desk any? How do you think the drawers are attached? The back looked to be dominoed into the back brace and then what? A small strip glued to top and then the outside of the drawer to hold it there? (see photos below) Follow Up Posts: 1) As for the drawer question, Andy Rawls in his most recent project (Part 2) about mounting drawers when no apron or carcass. I actually think it was really creative. 2) Cool, a dovetail into the top ... Makes perfect sense! Seems like a great way to go with this. Now the rest of his drawer construction I don't think I'll be partaking in that was a bit over my level haha. 3) Give it a try, if you screw it up, you could always do another way. If I remember correctly it was dovetail in the back and a sliding dovetail into the drawer front. 4) I had never heard of Andy Rawls. Fellow Texan! Thanks 5) I’ve been watching some of his YouTube channel. He does good solid work. An has some very nice vintage tools 6) Couple of questions from the video. His brass inlay: 1) there’s a frame where he used a lighter wood, what was that all about. 2) He fitted the inlay into the wood to be used. How did he get it out to finish the wood? It was proud of the wood and used needle nose? 3) Was the finished inlay proud of the surface?

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Jamie Original Post: Was watching a newer episode tonight and seen the guys using all rikon equipment. I knew powermatic dropped or lost their sponsorship. The funny part I thought was that they had the rikon logo on the bandsaw in the background blurred out in one shot then in the next it was blacked out. But they still used a pm drill press in the episode.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original post by Puka Original Post: I have pictures to prove it, just not on my phone. It was a late Friday night, it was very hot and even hotter in my workshop. My hands slick with sweat, one gripping a wooden push stick the other a plastic pushy. Yeap you guessed it, the hand with the plastic pushy slipped. Usually when I cut wood on the panel saw I usually only wind up the blade enough that it will cut the bit of wood I need to cut. This night was no different, thanking the Joinery Gods. So my hand slipped on the pushy stick. Silly me I put it [the push stick] down and finished pushing the bit of wood threw with my hand directly on it. I wasn't directly behind the blade but off to one side. [this is why what happened next is why it happened] if I'd been directly behind the blade I wouldn't have slipped in the direction I did when the bit of wood finished cutting and the front inside corner of my thumb slammed into the side of the panel saw blade. I instantly lost a huge chunk of my digit. It wasn't a cut as such, more like a high speed grater. There was no single bit of meat to find so the Doc could stitch it back on, just many small bits of mince meat, which my vac unit sucked up never to be seen again. I did the usual swearing and name calling, looked at it and the blood gushing out then chucked my hand in the sky and left it there. Went looking for a phone to call up a ride [my dad] to the nearest A&E. said he'd be right there. Then I packed up all my tools and stuff from outside where I'd been building shelves, then waited. So the moral of this story is don't sweat and saw. Also its the quickest I have ever been been admitted at an A&E. Follow Up Posts: 1) Damn! Hope it heals quickly and will serve as a reminder to the rest of us! 2) While its only about as half missing as it was 10 days ago and looks like it will be fine in another 10 days. It still hurts like buggery when I slam the offending digit into something hard. The moral of the Story is there is no way in Hell you will get me to visit White Island at a time of increased activity . I have been there though and have no wish to go back. The trip destroyed a good pair of boots and left my lungs feeling peeled. 3) Damn man. Great reminder to everyone that these things are dangerous for fingers. 4) I cringed when I read the story! Hope you recover quickly. Also looked up the meaning of buggery? 5) So anyway here is my thumb after 10 days of healing. Took the bandages off to day as they were falling off and i wanted a look at it. I have deduced that I in fact cut a slot in the end of it or the side or whatever. See attached picture. (see photo below) I'm actually amazed at how fast it has grown back. No stitches as there was nothing to stitch. I was just raw meat. People look at it and go pppfft. Is that it? You took 4 days off work for that little thing. When I was in at the A&E the thing that brought tears to my eyes was when the dock jab a needle into my hand for a local so he could work on it without me feeling it when ever he dabbed at it with the sand paper like tissue paper he was using. That jab with the needle made my whole hand feel like I'd just put it in a pot of boiling water. It wore off while he was pissing about with that sand paper as well. I've had bigger wounds in/on other parts of the old bod over the years but none of them hurt has bad as this thumb job. I'll try and get the post injury photos, these will be a lot more cooler.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: Sorry for being a little long winded but, this is just how my morning is going.. Needed a little bit of epoxy this morning for the current project. Got a good pump of resin in my cup only to find that my fast hardener was empty. No big deal, I'll use the slow hardener.. Well, that one small cup of epoxy wasn't quite enough so, I went back to the resin only to find the pump was stuck in the down position.. Again, no big deal, I keep an extra pump around just in case. I changed the pump out but, the new pump wouldn't actually pump any resin. I pulled the pump out and stuck a stick in the can only to find the bottom 2/3 had gone bad. I was able to pour out of the can to get what I needed but, that's a first for me. The previous 2 shops didn't have constant heat and the WS always held up well. Follow Up Posts: 1) Did this can exist in one or both of the old shops... if so maybe some sort of odd reaction to finally having stable conditions. 2) This can was purchased a little over 2 years ago here in Montana.. So, it's only been through 2 shops.. I had forgotten I bought this can here when the original can was pretty much empty.. Although this one went bad way too early, I'm only on my third gallon in about 10 years..

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Woodenskye Original Post: Forgot to post this earlier. Over the weekend Charles Neil passed away. Those of you that don't know him he was 1 of the earliest people to do WW videos on VHS/DVD and then on YouTube. I have met or talked to a few pro WW, and Charles was a stand up guy and willing to share his knowledge. When I first started I was on a forum and asked him a question since he was a member, a few people made some rude comments towards me. Well Charles reached out to me and we went through my questions and he provide me 90 day access to his premium site, didn't have to, but this showed me what a good guy he was. Follow Up Posts: 1) I saw that he passed but, always enjoyed his videos and teaching. Sad loss for the woodworking community for sure but, more so for his family. He was a good person who really seemed to care about people.

Thread transferred from previous forum - Original Post by Kev Original Post: Sitting in my office reflecting on 2019. At first, I thought it was a pretty rough year. Because of the work schedule, I was forced to go to an every-other-week release of content. I really thought this was going to drag things down but, in reality, I think the "numbers" are pretty close to the same. I know it really helped me as I wasn't trying to build like a mad man to have content. In the end, I still did 18 projects and 37 videos. And, that doesn't count the ones that are done and ready for release this year! I finally feel like I can take a breath and really enjoy 2020! I hope everyone had a good 2019 and may 2020 be even better! Thanks to all of you for your help and fun along the way!