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submitted on the old forum by Coop Do you guys use any tind of special jig saw blades?

submitted on the old forum by bushwacked Im curious how much stock is actually getting broken down that a jigsaw is not good. I can say that I used to use a miter saw ... after having a few discussions with kev and others I have switched to a jigsaw now for rough cuts. I have a perfect gap between my outfeed and tablesaw now that I use for clearance on my blade

Submitted on the old forum by tmize I’m a jigsaw user also mainly because I can’t break it down on outfeed table spin around an rip it on the table saw. When I first tried it over my old method it was like a light bulb went off. Why didn’t I ever think of that

Submitted on the old forum by Kev To each his own. Your shop, your flow, your business. But, if you're in the profession of teaching this stuff, you should probably teach the safe methods if for no other reason than liability.

Submitted on the old form by Keggers I guess I'm in the minority here because I have always used my miter saw to break down rough stock with few exceptions. I always clamp down the left side of the board and keep my left hand well out of the way. I'm not suggesting anyone do things my way nor do I plan to defend my practice, but it's worked well for me for the last ten years. I can see the benefit of breaking down boards with a jig saw but with the volume of wood I run through my shop it's not practical for me to do it that way.

Submitted on the old forum by Coop I know and, I really need to quit being so lazy and change my bad and dangerous habits. The last instance I speak of was cutting to rough lengths a 22” wide X 92” long X 2” thick slab of walnut. I also trimmed off a lot of sap wood/bark using the same method. I did it in the yard on the grass and was aware of where my right leg was at all times.

Submitted on the old forum by Kev I don't see a circular saw as the same in this instance as the miter saw. With the miter saw, your off hand is usually supporting the work then therefor vulnerable to being in the line of fire if manure hits the oscillator.

Submitted on the old forum by Coop I’m sure the hammers going to come down on this one but, on most pieces, large and small widths, I use the circ saw. Don’t tell your son! On thicker pieces, I make multiple passes with the correct support and am always cautious of kickback. I have a miter saw but no miter saw station. I use my ms for multiple cuts and for trim.

Submitted on the old forum by Kev I do know that I had a great conversation with my son on this topic.. Was glad to know that he was into doing more research on things rather than just believing what you see on YouTube! Thanks for the input!

Submitted on the old form by Mel Jigsaw always for rough breakdown. I don't even own a miter saw

Submitted on the old forum by Kev I'm noticing a lot more people (many well known YT creators) cutting rough widths on large stock at the miter saw. Of course they would edit out any mistakes, right? I've alway been taught that it's best to do this with a jig saw for safety reasons. And, yes, I've taken this shortcut in the past and had the saw "jump" on me.. Is this people just being lazy or am I missing something? I currently have my youngest son in the shop for a few days (project for him) and we had some large stock to break down. Since my "teaching" hat is on, I have him cutting to rough length with the jigsaw and than rough ripping at the band saw. Thoughts??

Submitted on the old forum by Kev For the record, I do think the fences need to be movable for a multitude of reasons and, I also think they need to be removable for a multitude of reasons. I guess what I'm really questioning is, is this the proper tool to break down rough stock to rough length? This seems to be the reasoning behind removing the fences.

Submitted on the old forum by woodenskye I would go without a fence that runs the whole length of the miter saw station. From the original fence on the saw, I would probably go no more than 12" with the fence. The board is only needs to register against the fence on the saw. I would rather have the work space. With that being said, having a small shop, I'm a bigger fan of losing the miter saw all together.

Submitted on the old forum by Kev For those of you that follow the Woodwhisperer, I'm interested in your thoughts on him doing away with the extended fences. As posted in another thread, We're just putting the final touches on my next miter station and I'm not too sure that I agree that leaving off the extended fences. I don't have any inside information other than what's been posted publicly but, I believe the premise is that it's easier to put rough stock up there to cut to rough length with just the standard MS fences. I'm not sure about all of you but, isn't conventional wisdom to break down rough stock with a jig saw rather than the miter saw? Does that lack of extended fences replace this conventional wisdom? Are we taking shortcuts on shop safety? Am I missing something entirely? As my plans will be out before Marc's videos come out, I'm very interested to see if there's something that I'm missing? My set up will have extended fences regardless. However, as usual, my fences will be both adjustable and removable.

Submitted on the old forum by Kev Well, I paid close attention to the insulation in the new building as well as going with LED lighting. So, I'm hoping that the mini split will keep up in the summer. If if won't in the winter then, I'm fine dropping another pellet stove in.

Submitted on the old forum by keggers I had an air source heat pump installed in my shop this summer. My central unit went out and had to be replaced. The new unit doesn't cool the shop as well as I'd like since every machine in the shop including the lights produces heat. The best it can do is keep the shop around 75 degrees when I have all the machines running. I'm not complaining - kudos to those folks who work with no ac/heat.

Submitted on the old forum by Kev I will be going with the mini split option in the new shop. I’m also still learning open the possibility that I’ll also add a pellet stove for some of those colder winter days

Submitted on the old forum by woodenskye The unmitigated gall of those neighbors coming over to drink your beer!

Submitted on the old forum by Coop After a couple of years of watching me working in the shop in the the Houston summer climate, my wife almost insisted that I install an A/C unit. Our winters are relatively mild but there are below freezing days. I looked into different options and for me, the simplest and most economical was a window unit that provides both. It has been a year round, climate controlled shop. With the garage doors closed, it also stopped neighbors from walking over and killing my time and drinking my beer!

Submitted on the old forum by Coop The rest of the bedroom furniture drawers have under mount soft close drawers which really make it nice in the morning while getting ready for work without waking the wife. Are the Blum that you use soft close and I guess it’s advisable to purchase the mounting tool?

Submitted on the old forum by Kev That would be my go to Coop but, you could also get away with good side glides as well. Really depends on if you want to lose 1" of drawer space side to side and see the glides or, lose 1/2" of depth in your drawer and not see the glides. Both function very well but, there is more adjustability in the Blum under-mount glides that really help you dial in a drawer front to a perfect fit.

Submitted on the old forum by Coop Thanks guys. The table on my side of the bed contains the 911 facility. So Kev, given the width of the drawers, do you recommend the bottom mount glides like you used on your last build?

Submitted on the old forum by Kev Good question! I've just always called them wood runners as well.. Certainly nothing wrong with wood runners but, I'm not sure I'd want them for that location.. As things change, if they become sticky, you end up pulling things on the table onto the floor. Especially if you're trying to get in that drawer quickly in the middle of the night.. You know, to get your phone to call 911 for that intruder in your house

Submitted on the old forum by Coop I’m about to start a side table for my wife’s side of the bed and it will have two drawers, approx. 18” wide. I don’t really want to use store bought metal glides but would rather use the kind where I cut the groove in the side of the drawer and have a wooden runner attached to the frame. Is there a correct name for this?

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