Bushwacked Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 not sure if this goes here ... I am looking for better picture hanging equipment than the cheap stuff from HD. I have snapped like 4-5 screws off in the back of the boards I am trying to hang, it is quite annoying. So I was thinking something like this wire: https://www.amazon.com/Picture-Hanging-100-Feet-Braided-Supports/dp/B082XXKVMF/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=picture+hanging+wire&qid=1627342256&sr=8-5 I like these type of D ring hooks: https://www.amazon.com/Ring-Picture-Hangers-Screws-Solutions/dp/B019QX7CY8/ref=pd_bxgy_img_1/147-4197979-2832646?pd_rd_w=JXAqI&pf_rd_p=c64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=3B4JYBQWXHTB8RRYB1QX&pd_rd_r=92700f45-9147-4abc-acaa-89d93119248d&pd_rd_wg=4ahXp&pd_rd_i=B019QX7CY8&psc=1 However the screws are what get me ... is there screws this size that are actually good? Or are they so small no one cares to make good screws and I am stuck with garbage? thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 The braided wire and d-rings are what I use. I predrill for the screws using a vix bit. Depending on the wood I also coat the screw with bees wax to lubricate the screw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye (Bryan) Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Pre drilling is a must! You could try to find higher quality screws, but if you pre drill may not be necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwacked Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bob said: The braided wire and d-rings are what I use. I predrill for the screws using a vix bit. Depending on the wood I also coat the screw with bees wax to lubricate the screw. 49 minutes ago, Woodenskye (Bryan) said: Pre drilling is a must! You could try to find higher quality screws, but if you pre drill may not be necessary. Ya, I predrill but maybe I just got a bad batch when I snapped 3 in the same back frame. I will try the wax thing ... any kind in particular or Johnson's paste or renaissance good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 How heavy is the item you are trying to hang? I can’t say that I have ever snapped a screw out of the wood using the hangers you show. The d rings you referenced show a support load of 10# and the cable of 30#. If my pic or mirror is too heavy or wide, I will use two hooks mounted on the wall at quarter points to help distribute the weight and stress. You might also just use the d rings with two wall hooks and eliminate the cable all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwacked Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coop said: How heavy is the item you are trying to hang? I can’t say that I have ever snapped a screw out of the wood using the hangers you show. The d rings you referenced show a support load of 10# and the cable of 30#. If my pic or mirror is too heavy or wide, I will use two hooks mounted on the wall at quarter points to help distribute the weight and stress. You might also just use the d rings with two wall hooks and eliminate the cable all together. oh I snapped them just installing the screws, not actually hanging ... Most things are between a pound or 2 and maybe 10 at the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I use the hardware you linked and pre-drill. I've never had an issue with the screws snapping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bushwacked said: oh I snapped them just installing the screws, not actually hanging ... Most things are between a pound or 2 and maybe 10 at the most. Can’t help you there. Perfection at screwing, comes with practice. 😀 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwacked Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Kev said: I use the hardware you linked and pre-drill. I've never had an issue with the screws snapping. ok cool, I will pick that and then and try it all out. 10 hours ago, Coop said: Can’t help you there. Perfection at screwing, comes with practice. 😀 LOL! I see what you did there, I am just but a young grasshopper 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Bushwacked said: ok cool, I will pick that and then and try it all out. FWIW, I pick up that hardware at Lowes.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwacked Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Kev said: FWIW, I pick up that hardware at Lowes.. cool, I will have to go check it out and see 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Last resort is a 3" grk through the frame into a stud. Shouldn't go anywhere after that 🙂 Are you putting those small screws in with a impact or a drill? Maybe go the hand route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwacked Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jamie said: Are you putting those small screws in with a impact or a drill? Maybe go the hand route. nope, hand screwing ... I think the last batch of screws I had would of snapped themselves if they saw a drill coming at them 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Jamie said: Last resort is a 3" grk through the frame into a stud. Shouldn't go anywhere after that 🙂 Are you putting those small screws in with a impact or a drill? Maybe go the hand route. A little wax on the screw also helps.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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