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1 hour ago, Jamie said:

she is 8 but in a few years butterflies won’t be so cool.

Yea, I don't agree with this.  Your not talking about butterfly stickers or something like that, you are talking about something that is hand crafted and that never goes out of style.

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“If you don’t have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?”  John Wooden

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Nice job!  No gaps to deal with!

Personally, I like Dutchment that are more narrow in the middle..  Often times, I freehand them at the bandsaw, clean up the edges, and then cut the mortise to fit..

 

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Made some progress on the desk learned a lot along the way. 
 

Started out putting a couple Dutchmen into the top. Came out really well! Using the router jig is a very simple process, make a template, rout it out and use the same template with a bushing removed to cut the fill in pieces. Only a little sanding on the corners to match the bit to make them fit. I did also chamfer the bottom edge of the ash piece to make it start easier.  C4A8CC7B-A600-4E91-B480-2C067C736300.thumb.jpeg.57a68c480063bacf592d150f34743e7b.jpeg10E02C19-DE03-406E-8648-286FF91F7E5B.thumb.jpeg.f5f9961d235f8710b8d4462c5e7c50f6.jpeg

Shop helper was in and out of the shop but checked in on me quite a bit.  She was happy with the progress. 7CDAC12F-E9FF-4D65-ABA7-473A2DEE5713.thumb.jpeg.25e095c64501c84dc80e15de95e3c432.jpeg

Decided on 2 of them. Wanted to get a 3rd on the far end, with the curve of the tree it got pretty thin on the edge so didn’t want to risk cutting through.

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Found this nice grain in my stock of ash, was a section of the board between 2 knots.  This pic hasn’t been touched by a sander. Looked quite a bit better with a little random orbit sanding. 
 

Move on to the epoxy at this point, and where the learning came in. I went against better judgment and decided to pour from the top down. The bottom side of the slab has the wider crack than the top. I didn’t get any pictures of this step. I used what I thought was an overkill amount of tyvek tape to seal off all the cracks. Was happy how it looked and felt. I then placed the slab on top of 4 sticks to allow airflow to get to the bottom side per the directions. 35A940B4-AA4E-4D65-B3FB-89A8CC02E285.thumb.jpeg.338906cc4476ada2f6d4a84287f59b45.jpeg

All leveled up and ready to mix. 
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A little instruction and she was set! 
 

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All was looking well for about the first 15 minutes. Bubbles popping wasn’t an issue. I did crank the heat up in the shop according to the instructions to 77 degrees. Needs to be there for 72 hours. Then there was a little drip that hit the table. Then a couple more drips. Then you could see the level in the crack starting to go down. All hell was breaking loose! Looked between the slab and my bench top and noticed the tape was starting to sag with the weight on the epoxy or a chemical reaction with it. Decided to pull the shims out from under it and let it sit on the bench. This in turn pushed a bunch of extra epoxy back up onto the top. At this point I was at a loss on what to do. I did try putting extra tape on where I could to no avail. 
 

After babysitting this for a few hours and checking on it every hour late into the night I decided to just let it sit. This morning I came out to the shop to find about half the epoxy drained out. It’s still not set and is sticky to the touch. But it did set enough that the slab is stuck to the bench. Later in the day I did try to pry it free and the epoxy wasn’t lifting with the slab. Going to let it sit for a few days and see what happens. BA76330A-65A9-439B-A1CF-AD9F61770DF3.thumb.jpeg.a95fc891a31b55bf537b3f5937404865.jpeg

Shrinkage. 

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14 hours ago, Jamie said:

I then placed the slab on top of 4 sticks to allow airflow to get to the bottom side per the directions. 

I understand the theory behind getting airflow under the slab but it seems to me that besides the challenge you ended up with, having the slab off the table would have the epoxy on the underside drying unevenly just because of the weight of the epoxy.

14 hours ago, Jamie said:

Shop helper was in and out of the shop but checked in on me quite a bit

This sound like you hired her for a supervisory position more then helper.  I hope you adjusted her pay scale, at least put a little more into her 401k.

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Well good news! I got the slab off my bench top! A couple of pry bars and some wood shims.  A few choice words and a grunt and she let go. Bad thing is part of my bench top is now stuck to the slab. 284E026C-B8C0-422A-8329-547C1272CA8A.thumb.jpeg.4be555e265d215ac28ec54ca074620f0.jpeg


shouldn’t be to bad of a fix. Will use the router jig to shave the particle board off. Really am impressed with the strength of the epoxy. Never in my wildest dream did I think it would stick to a melamine top like that. 

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DAMN! At least your next pour will be a lot easier. Did you use a propane torch or hair drier to remove the bubbles? Probably didn’t need to as much as you lost but might try it on your last pour. So neat to see her involved in this project! Priceless! 

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6 minutes ago, Coop said:

DAMN! At least your next pour will be a lot easier. Did you use a propane torch or hair drier to remove the bubbles? Probably didn’t need to as much as you lost but might try it on your last pour. So neat to see her involved in this project! Priceless! 

I used a propane torch. Just had to touch the epoxy with the flame to get them to pop. 
 

I have made quite a few fishing rods and use an epoxy to hold the guides and wraps on, with the clear you can really see the air bubbles and they pop super easy with very little heat. 
 

Emmi is a pretty good little shop helper! She comes up with some pretty neat scrap projects! 

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Jamie, do you have a belt sander? If not, you may have to go back to the router leveling table as as that stuff don’t take kindly to a ros, especially with a slab with that much surface area. 

Also, I found on a recent deep pour that a slight 3rd pour after sanding was in order, then a slight finish sanding with the ros. 

Looking good bud! 

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On 3/16/2021 at 9:20 PM, Coop said:

Jamie, do you have a belt sander? If not, you may have to go back to the router leveling table as as that stuff don’t take kindly to a ros, especially with a slab with that much surface area. 

Also, I found on a recent deep pour that a slight 3rd pour after sanding was in order, then a slight finish sanding with the ros. 

Looking good bud! 

We are thinking exactly the same way! With the bench top that is stuck to the slab I think ill start with a old chisel and hammer, then on to the belt sander.  Plan is to get the bottom cleared off then switch to the router leveling jig for the top to skim it off.  I will also be taking it to be run through a widebelt sander.  All the more reason for me to continue shopping for the 37" drum sander ?

 

I think for the top coat on this that I might get a top coat epoxy, with as much epoxy that ran off the edge it might blend in better.  Will find out more tomorrow night when I tear back into it.  

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Live has been pretty busy lately and haven’t gotten much shop time in. Have made some progress on the desk.....BC03899F-87EA-44EE-8BB5-194959A1B92B.thumb.jpeg.3daae3faaf817db6d0786649fd7806bb.jpeg

Put the jointer to use and milled up the leg parts. Was a nice tool to use and really liked the longer bed. The legs are going to be ash. I kinda forgot how hard ash is! Had a little tear out from the jointer and planer. 
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The leg stretchers will be held in with m and t. Figured since I played around with angled m and t on the chairs that I would carry that over to these leg frames. 4CD638C3-7DF1-4794-B803-F946880B9A36.thumb.jpeg.4fa89eff988fdd3151b1d0e726d0fca5.jpeg

Had a few little holes show up in the top after getting the top sanded.3B93E382-CB95-409D-8B9F-84CCF53B6B02.thumb.jpeg.9f870a4854bc0234345c5a0428f2b298.jpeg

Took a tool out of my fishing rod building room. It’s a little epoxy mixer. Has a metal billet that rides in the bottom of the plastic mixing cup. Spins pretty slow and doesn’t whip air into small batches. Kinda overkill for mixing a small batch but I figured I had the tool so might as well use it. 
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All the pin holes filled. 
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Did manage to get the top sanded up and rubbed some lacquer thinner on it. Was blown away how the epoxy popped! 
 

Am leaning towards your guys method of armor seal and lacquer over the top. Would like this top to shine some, thinking semi gloss? 

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Looks awesome!  I think your finishing choice will look awesome!  Just make sure the ARS is cured before hitting it with the Lacquer.  

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