Jamie Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 So.....with this kitchen project in the making I’m thinking I could have a little catch in this step of the project. I currently have a delta 16-32, underpowered little machine that I did take time to dial in and do have it pretty true. It works great for sanding a few pieces at a time but don’t think it will hold up to a set of cabinet doors. Plus it’s just super slow going. I can probably get the face frames and doors, drawer fronts all sanded at the cabinet shop I used to work at, 5 miles from home. Thinking from what they have charged me in the past that it would be around $300 for this operation. This has me thinking that I could upgrade my sander but not sure what to go to. Don’t want to spend a ton but don’t want a pos either. So have looked around at buying.....grizzly 24” 2 drum is the most reasonable priced option I have seen for new. Wood master has a nice 37” single head but that is quite a bit more $. Just unsure on what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I had the Grizz, it was my first drum sander. Biggest complaint I had about it was the DC. If you can swing it, the Supermax is awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 44 minutes ago, Kev said: I had the Grizz, it was my first drum sander. Biggest complaint I had about it was the DC. If you can swing it, the Supermax is awesome! Does the supermax out preform the grizzly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I have the Jet 16/32 and nothing to compare it to, I think it to be under powered. Gotta take baby steps with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Jamie said: Does the supermax out preform the grizzly? By leaps, yes. 5 hours ago, Coop said: I have the Jet 16/32 and nothing to compare it to, I think it to be under powered. Gotta take baby steps with it. They're meant for baby steps. I know we all use them to remove thickness from time to time but, in the end that's not what they're for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 I would agree that the delta I have is very under powered, I checked out the supermax 25 x2 and seems like a really good machine. Like how it has a 5hp motor vs the 3hp on the grizzly. Now the question comes down to open end vs closed end? @Kev If I remember right you have the open ended version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I have the SuperMax 19-38 and I run 120 grit on it all the time. Couple passes through then I start with my random orbit. I start that with quick lick of 80 grit because 120 on the drum is about equivalent to 80 on the ROS. Then I just work through my grits. I have never wished I had more then the 19-38 it's a great machine. Quote "Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for." - Epicurus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Jamie said: I would agree that the delta I have is very under powered, I checked out the supermax 25 x2 and seems like a really good machine. Like how it has a 5hp motor vs the 3hp on the grizzly. Now the question comes down to open end vs closed end? @Kev If I remember right you have the open ended version? I have the same machine as @Chet and I prefer the open ended. It allows for double the width. That's why it's called the 19/38. Simply flick the piece around and do the other half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I have a General International (no longer in production) 2 drum 25" I run 80 on the first drum and 120 on the second. Early on the open end machines were really problematic but in more recent years it appears they have been greatly improved. While I cannot recall a time when I needed to sand something wider than about 20" or so I imagine for a table top it might come in handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 3:54 PM, pkinneb said: I have a General International (no longer in production) 2 drum 25" I run 80 on the first drum and 120 on the second. Early on the open end machines were really problematic but in more recent years it appears they have been greatly improved. While I cannot recall a time when I needed to sand something wider than about 20" or so I imagine for a table top it might come in handy. That has to be darn handy, not to have to swap out grits but I can’t visualize how it works. Do the drums roll in and out of place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Coop said: That has to be darn handy, not to have to swap out grits but I can’t visualize how it works. Do the drums roll in and out of place? It’s just like an open ended sander except it has a closed end with 2 drums in line. The second drum will usually have a finer grit than the first and is also set a little deeper of a cut. Can start with say 80 and 120, make a pass and it’s like 2 on a single drum. Then switch grits to finer. Speeds up the process 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 7:55 PM, Kev said: I had the Grizz, it was my first drum sander. Biggest complaint I had about it was the DC. If you can swing it, the Supermax is awesome! Did you have the double head grizzly? Problem I’m running into is there isn’t a drum sander of any brand available for purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jamie said: Did you have the double head grizzly? Problem I’m running into is there isn’t a drum sander of any brand available for purchase. No, single head.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 48 minutes ago, Jamie said: Problem I’m running into is there isn’t a drum sander of any brand available for purchase. This isn't just drum sanders. A lot of power tools are in short supply, actually a lot of everything is back ordered. I just passed week four waiting for a garage door. Quote "Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for." - Epicurus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, Chet said: This isn't just drum sanders. A lot of power tools are in short supply, actually a lot of everything is back ordered. I just passed week four waiting for a garage door. Agreed.. I've had the new band saw on order for nearly 6 months.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 23 hours ago, Chet said: This isn't just drum sanders. A lot of power tools are in short supply, actually a lot of everything is back ordered. I just passed week four waiting for a garage door. 23 hours ago, Kev said: Agreed.. I've had the new band saw on order for nearly 6 months.. Just think of the money we have all saved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Jamie said: Just think of the money we have all saved. Did we save any? Back order just means longer to get, not longer to pay.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Kev said: Did we save any? Back order just means longer to get, not longer to pay.. True.......guess I have saved by not ordering. Should just place an order before the price jumps up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 On 4/19/2021 at 9:23 PM, Kev said: Agreed.. I've had the new band saw on order for nearly 6 months.. Has your account been charged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Coop said: Has your account been charged? Yep.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 That’s what sucks. Supposedly possession doesn’t take place until the item leaves the vender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, Coop said: That’s what sucks. Supposedly possession doesn’t take place until the item leaves the vender. It's supposedly been shipped so they hit my account. Tracking shows it as arriving this week but, I'm not holding my breath! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 21 hours ago, Kev said: It's supposedly been shipped so they hit my account. Tracking shows it as arriving this week but, I'm not holding my breath! Hopefully it shows up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jamie said: Hopefully it shows up! Latest update is tomorrow at 6pm.. Actually, I thought it was pretty funny.. The note said "Delivery appointment: 04/22/2021, between 6:00 PM and 6:01 PM: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Kev said: Latest update is tomorrow at 6pm.. Actually, I thought it was pretty funny.. The note said "Delivery appointment: 04/22/2021, between 6:00 PM and 6:01 PM: Man the tracking they have on shipping these days is getting pretty accurate! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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