Coop Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I am building an outdoor project from an instructional video by Matt Cremona. I needed something to do and it’s a sitting bench that will fit great on our patio. I will post a series of pics later. Matt’s finishing process was based on an application testing process and not a tried and true experience. I took his lead and bought the teak oil recommended. This video is more than a year old and he is not responding to questions. His application is a multi step process, as he did all of his, pre-finished. Most of mine is assembled and then finished. Some parts are pre-finished and thus my dilemma. The instructions say to flood the pieces and then wipe off. They say nothing about cleanup of the brush, nor about the cure time of the product. Website says to refer to instructions on the container. MSDS give nothing better. I’m assuming, being an oil, that clean up can be done with mineral spirits? Not sure about the cure time. Has anyone any experience with this stuff? No help here. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I'll be honest, I haven't tried to clean up after teak oil.. I usually apply with a rag and then let the rag cure on the shop floor and toss. I guess if I were using a brush, I'd clean with mineral spirits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 I did use a brush, and a good one as there are a lot of slats in this build. What do you suspect the cure time is on this stuff. It was not the least bit tacky after 2 days. In fact, it was as smooth as a baby’s butt, if I can remember that far back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Coop said: I did use a brush, and a good one as there are a lot of slats in this build. What do you suspect the cure time is on this stuff. It was not the least bit tacky after 2 days. In fact, it was as smooth as a baby’s butt, if I can remember that far back! It's a super slow full cure but, sounds like you should be fine.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 This is what I am aiming for. I was unable to get a pic of Matt’s bench due to lack of ability, so I stole a pic of someone else’s bench that they had built. I hope I’m not violating rules somewhere. I don’t know where to give credit for this build. My bench is made from cypress as it was readily available. Matt’s was from thermal treated ash. To whittle down the time building this, I used my Domino for the back slats joinery from the upper and lower rails. This meant that the arch on the top of the top rail could not be duplicated on the bottom, at least for me. So I chose to have it perpendicular to the legs. All other jointer is mortise and tenon. First off are the back legs. Mortises are done on my dedicated mortiser. I failed to get a pic of the front legs. After these were cut, I shaped and cut the top and bottom rails of the back rest and cut the Domino mortises for them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 Next I cut all of the back slats, softened the edges with a 1/8” round over bit on the router table and cut all of mortises to receive the Domino tenons. The dry fit came out good and tight and square. As I wanted to assemble the ends containing the front and back legs, the seat support, the bottom brace and arm rest as one assembly, glue up of the back with epoxy included the back legs dry fitted for alignment. After waiting overnight for the epoxy to set, I tapped the back legs off of the back assembly and after dry fitting one last time, I epoxied and clamped the end assemblies. The holes you see under the seat support are for the screws to attach the seat slats. Pre-drilled on the drill press with a fortsner bit to recess and accept the washer head screws, then thru drilled with a 5/16” bit. Again, after waiting over night for the epoxy to set, they came out of the clamps. I guess I should have put this under project journals instead of here? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye (Bryan) Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Looking good Coop! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 That's really looking sharp Coop! Note: I moved this to the journal section. Enjoying the journey! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwacked Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 looking great!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 With the backrest and the two end sections dry, I cut the front and back rail supports and cut the tenons on them. There is also center seat seat support that had to be cut along with the tenons and holes for the seat slab screws. After another dry fit, more epoxy and clamps. i have built several of the projects offered for sale on Marc’s Woodwhisperer site and have always watched them at least once, all the way thru prior to starting them. This time, for some reason or another, I only watched the first two or three videos before starting the build. One night while waiting for the epoxy to dry on the back section, I watched the entire set of the instructional videos. Somewhere in there Matt mentions the final height of the seat of being 24” and that being that he is on the short side, it was ideal for him and that if it was too short for the builder, then lengthen the legs. I have two other bench’s on my patio and both are 26” to the seat. So after the final assembly had dried, I placed the seat slats in place and sure enough, the seat height was a tad uncomfortable. I took some scrap 8/4 mahogany that I had and cut 2” long pieces, the same size as the legs, and with some 3/8” stainless rods as dowels, using epoxy, I length the legs by 2”. I wish that I had taken a pic of the process. Anyway, leg extensions in place and seat slats attached from the bottom, I have a new bench. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Nice clean work coop! Looks awesome!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I like the leg extensions! Great project Coop! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye (Bryan) Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Great job Coop. You may want to brush some epoxy on the bottoms of the Mahogany so water doesn’t wick up from the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 Bryan, I failed to mention that. In the video, Matt damned the outside perimeter of the feet and poured about a 1/16” of epoxy and I did the same. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 Well, so much for the new bench for the new patio. As we already had two benches and I need to allow room for an outdoor cooking area, I agreed to donate it to my sister-in-laws fall festival fundraiser. They will do a silent auction on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye (Bryan) Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Hopefully it raises a lot of money! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Coop said: Well, so much for the new bench for the new patio. As we already had two benches and I need to allow room for an outdoor cooking area, I agreed to donate it to my sister-in-laws fall festival fundraiser. They will do a silent auction on it. Hope it does well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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